Wednesday, April 17, 2013

Resiliency for B.C. Liberals in the Interior?

The newest projection for the now on-going election campaign in British Columbia continues to have little good news for the B.C. Liberals, as the B.C. New Democrats remain well in front and with a roughly 98% chance of winning on May 14. But a new riding poll for the two seats in Kamloops suggests the B.C. Liberals may be more difficult to knock off in some ridings than expected.

The projection now incorporates all of the new polling that was released for the start of the campaign, from EKOS, Angus-Reid, and Ipsos-Reid. But there have been no major changes: the NDP is projected to be between 46.1% and 49.7% support and capable of winning between 57 and 73 seats, based on current polling data. The B.C. Liberals trail with between 28% and 31.2% support and between 10 and 27 seats. More precisely, the NDP stands at 47.9% and 65 seats to 29.6% and 19 seats for the Liberals.

The other parties trail at some length, with the B.C. Conservatives between 10.6% and 13% support and the B.C. Greens between 7.9% and 9.9%. Neither are currently projected to be in the running for any seats, but the forecast gives the Greens a high of four seats and the Conservatives a high of one. Unfortunately for Christy Clark, her high forecast is only 37 seats - short of a majority.

For a broader analysis of the trends and the projection, please read my article this morning in The Globe and Mail.

Before going into the three province-wide polls, a new survey by Oraclepoll commissioned by The Daily News in Kamloops is worth a look. The poll was conducted between April 12 and 14 and surveyed 300 people apiece in the ridings of Kamloops-North Thompson and Kamloops-South Thompson via IVR. Unfortunately, the polls did not include a Green candidate in either riding as any have yet to be named.

In Kamloops-North Thompson, the NDP's Kathy Kendall was given 49% to 43% for the Liberals' incumbent MLA Terry Lake. The Conservatives got only 8% in the riding. In Kamloops-South Thompson, rookie Liberal candidate Todd Stone took 48% to 34% for the NDP's Tom Friedman and 18% for the Conservative candidate.

This poll has been included in the projection, but both ridings had been considered to be relatively easy victories for the NDP by the model. Both are now a bit closer with the inclusion of this poll, but it suggests that the B.C. Liberals may not be so easy to knock off in the Interior. We saw something similar happen for the Alberta Liberals in Calgary and Edmonton and the Quebec Liberals in central Quebec. In both cases, the Liberals were able to hold on to a lot more of their support than expected, while their vote tanked where they did not hold a seat. Could the same thing happen here?

How a Green candidate would change things up is uncertain. It might drag the NDP's vote down a bit, but also the Liberals'. There is some indication that much of the Green support is coming from disaffected Liberals who do not see themselves in the Conservatives but won't support the NDP.

The support for the Conservatives in these two ridings should be of some concern for the party. Not that these were serious targets for the party - they weren't - but it should be disappointing to them that they are not even close to being in the running in two B.C. Interior ridings. In Kamloops-South Thompson, they haven't been able to take greater advantage of the lack of a Liberal incumbent, the sort of situation that should give the Conservatives more of a chance. Their support in the Interior would need to double before the Conservatives could start thinking of winning that riding.

For the NDP, their score in Kamloops-South Thompson is virtually unchanged from 2009, despite their uptick in support. That suggests that the NDP may not be able to make inroads throughout B.C., and that more than a couple ridings where they are pegged to be ahead by a narrow margin could be difficult ones for them to win.

Hopefully we'll see more riding polls from the Interior to shed some more light on this.
For the provincial polls, we'll start with EKOS. They are doing something interesting, reporting their results for the entire population but also just likely voters. Likely voters are primarily those who voted in the last federal election, but EKOS does some other calculations to model what the voting population will look like as opposed to the general population. As the purpose of the projection is to predict the outcome of the election, and not what all British Columbians think, the projection will only be using the 'likely voter' numbers from EKOS.

The big question with these numbers is whether other firms are already doing some of these calculations. It seems that some of them are, so EKOS is merely showing a little bit more about how the sausage is made.

But in terms of the general population, EKOS shows little change from their last poll from February. And their likely voter numbers are well within the norm of other surveys. Of note: the NDP leads by four points among men but 20 points among women. They also lead in every age group except among those over the age of 65, where the Liberals have the advantage.
The new Angus-Reid poll also shows little change from their last survey, conducted in mid-March (NDP down three, Liberals unchanged, Greens up two). They do show a drop in Adrian Dix's approval rating, however, which could be something to keep an eye on.

This poll had the much ballyhooed result of the Greens in second on Vancouver Island, with 22% to the Liberals' 19%. Considering the sample sizes, it is not much of a lead. And it is counter to what Ipsos-Reid found (see below).

Angus-Reid shows the same gender split as EKOS, with the NDP up by 11 among men but 25 among women. Perhaps most importantly, their respondents rated Dix more highly than Clark on the economy (27% to 22%).
Ipsos-Reid has shown a little more change since its last poll of mid-March, but it is still within the margin of error (or would be, if this was a probability sample). Ipsos has the NDP and Liberals down three points apiece, and the Greens and Conservatives up two each.

Again, we see the gender divide: the NDP up by seven among men, but 31 among women. And they lead by 17 points among those aged 55 or over (i.e., voters).

The approval ratings (30% for Clark, 51% for Dix) show no real change, but both Jane Sterk and John Cummins had increases (to 28% and 19%, respectively). Note that in the rolling three-poll average of approval ratings, Sterk now rates more highly than Clark.

Also problematic for Clark is that 43% of British Columbians strongly disapprove of her. That is a huge number. And 58% of respondents expect the NDP to win a majority (they must be ThreeHundredEight readers), compared to only 8% who expect the Liberals to be re-elected to a majority. Perception can be everything.

The regional result on Vancouver Island is worth noting, as it differs from Angus-Reid's. The two polls put the Liberals and Conservatives at roughly the same level of support, but the big difference seems to be between the NDP and the Greens. But if this were a random sample, the margin of error would be over eight points - so maybe this is much ado over nothing.

What is perhaps most remarkable about these polls is that they have been more or less identical for the last seven months. The opinions of British Columbians seem pretty solidified. With such unusual consistency, it may be too much to expect the Liberals to overcome such a huge margin in just four weeks.


  1. Be really nice if all pollsters were as transparent as EKOS regarding the turnout weighting. Given that EKOS' "likely voters" results in this BC poll are much more in line with the other pollsters' numbers than their "all voters" results, I think your assumption that most (if not all) other pollsters are de facto weighting for "likely voters" is probably sound.

    I also note that for the second time in a row, EKOS' latest "likely voter" federal results are strikingly close to Abacus' numbers:

    EKOS (Feb 1-10):
    CPC 34 NDP 30 LPC 21 BQ 6 GPC 7
    Abacus (Feb 5-6):
    CPC 35 NDP 31 LPC 21 BQ 6 GPC 6

    EKOS (Apr 3-10):
    CPC 34 NDP 26 LPC 26 BQ 6 GPC 6
    Abacus (Apr 5-6):
    CPC 33 NDP 27 LPC 27 BQ 5 GPC 7


  2. I went to the first all candidates' debate in my riding last week. The Conservative candidate had two answers that they repeated for every question. They either said that it's very important to balance the budget, or that they're new at this and don't know how to answer the question right now. The second answer was used far more than the first.

    If you want a safe bet in this election, bet against the BC Conservatives.

  3. When analyzing BC voting intentions, you need to understand there are some constituencies that are most likely going to vote in the right-wing candidate no matter what. The interior and Fraser Valley are the two most obvious places for that. The only circumstance where the NDP might squeak in a win might be where the right-wing vote is split. But since the Conservatives bungled their opportunity by challenging their leader last fall, that won't be an issue this time up. I would also suggest the Liberals will win somewhere between 25 and 35 seats this election thanks to the tendency of these constituencies to vote right-wing blindly. The NDP will win the rest.

    1. I suspect you're probably right. That's around the range I'm expecting too.

  4. Hi Eric,

    Wondering if you can provide insight on the situation of Kelowna-Mission? Who are the other riding candidates; what are their polling numbers, and who gains from the NDP resignation both contextually and statistically? Do the Greens have a shot?


    1. It wasn't a riding I had going to the NDP, so I don't imagine it will change much. They'll put up another candidate in the end, so it probably won't have much of an effect locally.

    2. The former NDP candidate is now running as an independent FYI.

  5. Don't do it BC, you'll regret it. I can say that as surely as I can say the Sun will rise tomorrow morning.

  6. Where would the greens win their 4 seats? Vancouver Island?

  7. Interesting result for the Kamloops ridings. FWIW, Kamloops has always been considered the bellwether of bellwether ridings in BC and every government for the last 100 years has won Kamloops, without exception.

    The combined Kamloops sample size is also 600, which is not too far off, relatively speaking, overall provincial sample sizes. Interesting.

  8. Let's suppose Dix wins as predicted.

    What effect will this have on the Federal area ?

    1. every time the NDP have held come to power in BC the Federal NDP suffers, so unless Dix does a good job or has a long honeymoon expect fewer NDP MPs in 2015

    2. The BC and Federal NDP should pray that natural gas prices go up. If they don't, Dix will have a very short honeymoon.

  9. The Greens will not win any seats, despite the overbearing interference of Elizabeth May into provincial politics. Yikes! and this woman claims that the Greens won't control MP's. She controls everything about the Greens, even provincial politics where she is not supposed to go to, but can't help it.

    1. Agreed. I don't see the Greens winning a seat. I predict Vicki Huntington and Bob Simpson will be re-elected.

      I'm not a greenie but, I do not see a problem with the federal leader participating in local campaigns. A party needs to utilise their best assets to appeal beyond its base. Rightly or wrong Ms. May is that party's (both federally and provincially) best asset.


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