Thursday, February 9, 2012

NDP widens lead in BC

Two polls taken at the end of January by Forum Research and Angus-Reid indicate that the B.C. New Democrats have pulled further ahead of the governing Liberals. And with support for the B.C. Conservatives continuing to ride high, Christy Clark is unequivocally on track to lose the next election.
The poll by Angus-Reid gives the NDP the widest lead at 14 points, with Adrian Dix's party at 42% to 28% for the B.C. Liberals. The Conservatives stand at 19%, while the Greens trail with 10%.

Angus-Reid was last in the field October 31-November 1, and since then the NDP has gained two points. The Liberals are down three while the Conservatives are up one.

The New Democrats lead in every part of the province, with 42% in Vancouver, 51% on Vancouver Island, 37% in the Interior, and 43% in the North. They have made substantial gains on Vancouver Island and in northern British Columbia since Angus-Reid last reported.

The Liberals have dropped substantially in the north, and are stuck at between 27% and 30% throughout the province. The B.C. Conservatives are doing well everywhere but on Vancouver Island, and are even seven points behind the Liberals in Vancouver. They have outpaced the Greens for third spot throughout British Columbia.

They are the real problem for Christy Clark. Roughly one-quarter of B.C. Liberal voters from 2009 have gone to the B.C. Conservatives. Give those votes back to the Liberals and the race is neck-and-neck. Adrian Dix's lead has been formed thanks to with the weakness of the Liberals and the strength of the Conservatives.

His personal numbers aren't as good as those for his party: 26% think he is the best person to be premier. Clark is not far behind with 22%. Dix's approval ratings are positive, however, with 45% approval to 36% disapproval. Clark (40% to 49%) and Cummins (23% to 39%) have negative approval ratings.
The poll by Forum Research is somewhat older, but finds some similar results. The B.C. New Democrats lead with 39% to 26% for the B.C. Liberals, while the B.C. Conservatives are solidly in third with 22%.

Since Forum was last in the field on December 15, the NDP has gained five, the Liberals have gained three, and the Conservatives have dropped one.

Like Angus-Reid, Forum has the NDP up in each part of the province: 39% in Vancouver, 41% on Vancouver Island, and 37% in the Interior and the North.  They've made important gains in Vancouver and in the Interior-North.

Liberal support is also at a similar level as Angus-Reid, but one difference is in the Interior-North region. There, Forum sees the B.C. Conservatives at 25% to 17% for the Liberals. Dropping into third in this part of the province would be a disaster for Christy Clark.

Also like Angus-Reid, Forum has positive approval ratings for Adrian Dix (though, at 35% to 34%, narrowly so) while Christy Clark (34% approval to 46% disapproval) and John Cummins (21% to 35%) have negative numbers.

The projected seat results for these two polls are relatively similar, giving us a good idea of where things stand right now.

With the B.C. Conservatives at 22% and beating out the Liberals in part of the province, Forum's numbers would result in 60 seats for the B.C. New Democrats, 18 for the B.C. Liberals, and five for the B.C. Conservatives. The potential for more seats for Cummins is large, particularly if he can line up some compelling candidates and pull ahead of the Liberals in the Interior or the North, or both.

While Angus-Reid has a wider lead, its weaker results for the Conservatives gives 61 seats to the NDP, 22 to the Liberals, and only two to the Conservatives.

But in both scenarios we see a massive two-thirds NDP majority for Adrian Dix, thanks in large part to John Cummins. In fact, if we look at the polling trends over the last two years we see that the B.C. Liberals have returned to the levels of support they had in their last months under Gordon Campbell. Christy Clark's honeymoon, in which her party pulled ahead, is clearly over. Since at least January 2010, the B.C. New Democrats have out-polled the B.C. Liberals for most of the time, suggesting that it will not be a simple task for Christy Clark to right the ship.


  1. BC Liberals should be kicking themselves for not voting for Kevin Falcon.

  2. Polls suggest Falcon is less electable in BC unfortunately. Though I am a fan of his. I'm not too concerned right now - the BC Liberals have been way behind in polling between elections before. Once the campaign starts and people actually look at each party's platform, they tend to rethink their protest vote. And John Cummins isn't exactly Mr. Charisma.

    What'll really determine things is these upcoming by-elections. If the Faux-Cons can't win in Chilliwack they can't win anywhere, and I don't see our candidate (Laurie Throness) losing that one.

  3. Kevin Falcon may well have reduced the Conservatives to a religious-right rump.

    However, that the Liberals' support has slumped to the same levels Gordon Campbell saw suggests systemic weakness in Liberal support. Simply marginalising the Conservatives might do nothing more than reduce voter turnout, and do nothing for falling Liberal numbers.

    I think the Liberals' problems are bigger than just a right-wing alternative. British Columbians simply don't trust them (and after the HST debacle, I'm not surprised).

  4. I've talked to some people in Clark's office who are under the impression that they have abysmally failed to communicate all the good things they are doing.

    That being said, all the (ex Liberal) BC Conservatives I've talked to, knowing their opinions of the NDP, give me the sense of being people who at this point just want to see the province burn to punish the Liberals for daring to pick a Liberal woman to lead them

  5. I think you're exactly right on the BC Cons' feelings. I'm hopeful that that message won't resonate too will in an election though.

  6. @CalivancouverFeb 9, 2012 11:31 AM

    The BC Conservatives I've met seem to be rather disinterested in the gender of the Premier. Most of them are outright angry over things like the Carbon Tax and the HST. The BC Liberals were the party of common sense, low taxes, and smaller government but they've abandoned their tax cutting ways, raised fees, added taxes, and expanded government. Worst of all, they seem to have no real ideas about moving the province forward and add on top of that the slow return to the PST is just salt in the wound.

  7. @Anon

    I know the treaties that were signed with various first nations was a big strike against the BC Liberals for Cummins. Particularly w.r.t special fishery/resource rights. It's been something Cummins has campaign against for 20 years now.

    But the BC Conservatives supported the HST. As did Cummins personally. They even ran on it in the last election. Are you sure these are really BC Conservatives, and not the BC First people with Delaney?

    And good on the BC Conservatives for supporting what was right on the HST rather than what was popular.

    I agree on the salt in the wound thing totally. This needs to get fully sorted out before the BC Liberals have a real chance to recover.

  8. Eric - a new poll from Ipsos reinforces the BC Liberal collapse - 44% BC NDP, 32% BC Liberals, 16% BC Conservatives, Greens 7%. Cozying up to the Harper Conservatives & a $1 million attack ad campaign don't seem to have worked.

  9. The IPSOS poll also had Christy Clark ahead for best premier. Interesting.


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